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J-Pat : Jason Patrick Quinn's avatar

The funny thing is that the more the zionists push back and attack the ‘noticers’ it becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy. The likes of Owens and Fuentes aren’t dumb and they just point to those who are running interference for zionism/Netanyahu/Israel and that it confirms to them and their audience that the accusations they made against the zionist lobby et al are correct. Tbh even though the likes of Fuentes are despicable anti-semites it’s actually refreshing to see the likes of Owens and even Rogan criticising the Israeli genocide in Gaza and apartheid in the West Bank from the right for a change.

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The Zionists aren't fazed by antisemitism. On the contrary, they view it as a crucial tool in advancing Zionism and have done so from Herzl's days. What's actually happening is they're terrified by the explosion in anti-Zionism, so they're using the old trick of pretending it's antisemitism.

Anti-Zionism can be tolerated on the left so long as it doesn't gain any power. On the right is an entirely different matter. The Zionists know that if left and right reach agreement on this then the gravy train is over. All of their influence in Western politics, all of the subsidies, all of the bombs, all of the diplomatic cover, all gone. Israel as a pariah state (unless it reforms) and Zionism as a utterly repellent ideology to both the left and right.

I am on the right and have followed some of these influencers over the years. I liked Tim Pool back when he was doing multiple hour livestreams of protest events. That was some really valuable journalism. Now he seems to be a pundit. Haven't followed him in a fair while so can't speak to his current views.

Peterson I think is a deeply troubled man. I do think he added something valuable to the conversation way back when Canada's C16 bill was on the menu. I credit him with giving me (and many other young men) the nudge to start simple, by cleaning our rooms and moving on from there. Yet since he's joined The Daily Wire he's seemed extremely irritable, angry, and conflicted. I suspect he's experiencing some serious cognitive dissonance. Perhaps he decided to go for the money and is feeling his conscience. I'm not sure, I don't know the man personally.

Rogan obviously has views on political issues, but I don't see him as an especially political person. Definitely the most "normie" type influencer mentioned. Also the most significant figure yet to come out in opposition to Israel's actions.

Douglas Murray is a grifter, fake intellectual and always has been. I saw this one early. He's a master sophist. I feel he's one of the greatest debaters of our time purely on the function of debating. I don't think he really knows all that much or even cares all that much about the opinions he expresses. You can spot people like this because when they argue a point you agree with you notice they are talking shit and not presenting the position correctly.

Big things are happening on the right. There is a strong possibility of cross-politics solidarity on this and many other issues going forward, and this TERRIFIES both the Zionists generally, and people in power more broadly throughout the West.

The big challenge is going to be resisting the urge to go back to scapegoating each other and ignoring the powerful. Here's hoping!

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