What is the point of this post true or false.. we have a lot to do to right the world… this sort of noise just teats up a coalition who are trying to get a better trajectory! There are plenty of people to attack .. attack them…
Who is the "we" that are trying to right the world? What coalition is trying to get traction? Chomsky is not being attacked, but this information does call into question his loyalties, the fact that such a large sum of money changed hands is a concern. Noam Chomsky, is as they pointed out a very influential figure, and it would be good to know how deeply the zionist ideology had penetrated, particularly in educational institutions. There is a lot more falling to do before the rebuilding can begin.
Perfect is the enemy of good is an aphorism that means insistence on perfection often prevents implementation of good improvements. Mr Chomsky's work is humbling, it raises humanities consciousness. What is Mr Millar trying to do. What is his motive? What perfection is he trying to wield here by sharing this whether true of false? To answer your question about who is the "we." It is what that aphorism is about. The we is all those whose trajectory leads to social justice and in particular to end war and all derivatives of it. Mr Millar is not welcomed at PSC for a reason. Mr Timmy's reply to you is to the point. Linking Epstein is such a waste of time.. its just wasting time when we should be stopping a genocide.. why waste your time on Mr Millar's article?
This is silliness and mostly conjecture. Chomsky didn't use “settler colonialism” language to describe Israel. So what? Calling Chomsky a Zionist and presuming that his thinking about Israel solidified while he was a teenager during WWII and remained constant throughout his life is an assertion without a shred of evidence. By the same logic, can we say that Max Blumenthal is deep down inside a center-right Zionist because his father, Sidney Blumenthal, was a chief advisor to Bill and Hilary Clinton and is still ensconced in Democratic Party politics? Was Chomsky wrong to be pessimistic about the possibility of a single secular state in Palestine, given that Israel had and still has the unwavering financial, military, and diplomatic support of the US and Europe? Chomsky showed up to protests for most of his adult life and felt a responsibility to use his unmatched analytical skills to write and talk about politics and the media.
Unwavering support from USZA, UK and EU, indeed, when zionists have infiltrated every government, media, financial and educational institution in all western countries, it's a kind of paper in wet water unwavering, when you look to the protests. The social media posts and the disgust that the public has demonstrated towards the zionist project Israel. Chomsky, has been vague on zionism and Israel, he has not indicated a clear position. Considering that everyone in the Epstein files is tarred with the same paedophile/sexual assault brush. He might want to comment, - or not. It is my belief that honest, upstanding, moral, people are that way because they don't make connections with people who are immoral. Like attracts like. I am disappointed in Chomsky.
In 2015, at age 85, Noam Chomsky did something terrible! No doubt about it. I’m also disappointed in Chomsky. Is his wife lying? Did Chomsky work for Mossad? Or the CIA? Did Chomsky beguile Hugo Chávez in 2006? No evidence for those charges so far. I agree that academics are terrified of Israel, its precious antisemitism, and wealthy Israeli-American donors.
The problem with the yarn she is trying to spin is that outside of how implausible it all is, is 1) it's conveniently only being addressed now that there is no escape from the knowledge that is presented to the public. Choamsky/his wife could've made this statement during the first wave of releases and clarified their relationship then. Instead I assume they hoped these emails which are damning towards them would not be released and are now playing damage control after the cover up has failed, so excuse me if I'm not exactly trusting 2) this doesn't address Noam Chomsky's demonstrable friendship with Steve Bannon.
While everyone is rightfully more concerned about Noam's friendship with a convicted pedophile, its his friendship with Steve Bannon that highlights his duplicity, here is someone Chomsky called an "ultranationalist, reactionary", basically one step removed from a fascist if there is a distinction. Yet here he is with Bannon arm and arm having a laugh.
One thing I'll point out people often use the pictures and videos of the ruling class in parties dancing and having fun together regardless of supposed political affiliation as proof that at the end of the day, they are one unified class and their confrontations are just theatre. Why should Noam Chomsky be treated/viewed differently?
Now of course someone could point to his publicly known friendship with former CIA director John Deutch in fact on Deutch Chomsky was noted as saying "He has more honesty and integrity than anyone I’ve ever met in academic life, or any other life. … If somebody’s got to be running the CIA, I’m glad it’s him."
Though again, there's things a lot of politically active people both here and elsewhere would say about someone who has such a close relationship with any CIA agent let alone the Director of the organisation, of course anyone whose done research on Chomsky knows of his origins doing research funded by the Pentagon.
There are criticisms of Chomsky's work on its merit alone that don't touch at any of these factors that are highly damning of his ideas and view them as a mental dead end built to excuse political inaction and tacitly support the same empire it purports to condemn by levelling even harsher criticism on ts opponents/targets even if that criticism is ostensibly against US intervention.
Yet one putting the two together one can walk away with a more sinister reading of Chomsky's motivations. However if one doesn't believe he was any kind of intentional agent his own words can still be used to damn him, as he once said to a news host who interviewed him "“I’m not saying you’re self-censoring. I’m sure you believe everything you’re saying. But what I’m saying is, if you believed something different, you wouldn’t be sitting where you’re sitting."
Even if we believe that Noam was a good faith actor, his own work and statements should've clued him in that by his own standards he was no threat to the system he was ostensibly attacking as he made TV appearance after TV appearance and constant Op Eds on mainstream publications
"Even if it were true [that 9/11 was an inside job], which is extremely unlikely, who cares? I mean, it doesn’t have any significance."
Mandating Covid Vaccines: ”People who refuse to accept vaccines, I think the right response for them is not to force them to, but rather to insist that they be isolated.”
2012: “I think there’s a lot of excessive concern in activist groups about state repression. So take, say, there’s paranoia about concentration camps. You know, they’re gonna lock us up, NDAA says they can detain us indefinitely. Concentration camps have been there since the 50s.”
Chomsky and Epstein: Chomsky has maintained that Epstein’s ties to intelligence agencies should be considered a "conspiracy theory".
2018: Noam Chomsky and Bard College president had financial dealings with Jeffrey Epstein
The MIT linguist says the late sex offender helped on a ‘technical matter’ related to his and his late wife’s finances
Jeffrey Epstein helped move $270,000 for renowned linguist Noam Chomsky and also paid $150,000 to Bard College president Leon Botstein
Chomsky met with Epstein several times between 2015 and 2016, allegedly to discuss neuroscience and AI.
Chomsky also met with Epstein and former Israeli Prime Minister, Ehud Barak, allegedly to discuss "Israel’s policies with regard to Palestine.
I'd suggest this is a somewhat problematic article not least because Chomsky is still alive but not in a position to answer these sorts of charges. The meeting with Epstein is intriguing butcould be for any reason. In the circumstances under which Chomsky is unable to respond, it arguably amounts to a slur and there are surely individuals who merit greater attention.
Well, in my experience moral people usually stay that way because they avoid immoral people. Considering, his influential sphere is warrants an examination of his comments, I see someone has already posted some not so academic views.
What response from a pedophiles close friend is there that could in any way shape or form justify his actions? Contrast Noam Chomsky's response to Epstein with Norman Finkelstein's
I recall a short video or comment a year ago (approx.) in which Chomsky defended his brief contact with Epstein as merely asking advice on, or execution of, the transfer of a large sum of Chomsky's wife's money.
In the linguistic community, he was go incarnate. When he visited UCLA linguistics, it was as if the messiah had come. In any event, I was in Phonetics, so his syntactic analysis didn't really matter to me as I was intrigued by how sounds carried the core elements of meaning and how subtle of a change in sound could create a perceivable difference for listener. And it turns out.. there are things people do in certain languages that non native speakers are blown away by..
In any event.. sorry about getting lost in world of phonetics.. but as for Chomsky and his ties with Epstein and Zionism.. I guess that is pretty natural for most Jews of his generation, regardless of how 'progressive' and cutting they are when it comes to describing the US empire and its ways.
Like Leonard Cohen, one of my favorite troubadours, deep down, a hard core zionist. Very tribal. I think sadly most Jews are unable to get out of the mindset and brainwashing of being 'special, chosen, different'.. I mean after some 5000 years of this basic belief being passed down, generation after generation, it is not like Chosmky's linguist critical analysis would somehow cut him free of the cult like brainwashing that is part of the DNA.
Gen Z is breaking from this at the moment, but let's see how long that trend lasts. As people age, they go back to dogmas and beliefs from childhood.. like emotional/mental soul food. It just feels home.
Let's not think this is just a Jewish thing folks. I had Chinese friends that would serve us meals on plates reserved for non Chinese when we went to their house for dinner (kind of like a dog dish), Japanese to this very day have areas of the country that are for Japanese only. And so on and so forth..
It's just the way humans roll. We are after all, a tribal/clan species, no matter how urban or intellectual or critical of official narrative.
The man is very very old and incapable of representing himself against sniping, envious cowards. Those of us who can know what he gave the world and can take solace that his work stands all tests. It's in the record, don't take my word for it.
He's very old and he likes girls very young, his work was always inane shit meant to lead the gullible down a dead end but now his not mere connections but deep friendship with the most powerful and the most vile people on this earth have been exposed, his legacy is now in the sewer with other excrement
Down a dead end? He supplied a great deal the gist grinding in this sorry ass media regurgitation mill. There's a genocide going on and this is the collective intellectual response? Give me a break.
Pointing a finger leave four pointing backatcha. This is the dead end, substack and myopic boobs like who I'm talkin to!
I don't know this and I don't know him. But at his particular age he is a child of the Holocaust. And I would think that is a background that should not be neglected when analysing his thinking.
I am glad there are very few JEWS that share my love for Palestinians ….the world is ruled by Jews who believe the only valid race on earth is the Jewish race
Thanks for this. Have a look at the show which goes into more detail.
What is the point of this post true or false.. we have a lot to do to right the world… this sort of noise just teats up a coalition who are trying to get a better trajectory! There are plenty of people to attack .. attack them…
Who is the "we" that are trying to right the world? What coalition is trying to get traction? Chomsky is not being attacked, but this information does call into question his loyalties, the fact that such a large sum of money changed hands is a concern. Noam Chomsky, is as they pointed out a very influential figure, and it would be good to know how deeply the zionist ideology had penetrated, particularly in educational institutions. There is a lot more falling to do before the rebuilding can begin.
Perfect is the enemy of good is an aphorism that means insistence on perfection often prevents implementation of good improvements. Mr Chomsky's work is humbling, it raises humanities consciousness. What is Mr Millar trying to do. What is his motive? What perfection is he trying to wield here by sharing this whether true of false? To answer your question about who is the "we." It is what that aphorism is about. The we is all those whose trajectory leads to social justice and in particular to end war and all derivatives of it. Mr Millar is not welcomed at PSC for a reason. Mr Timmy's reply to you is to the point. Linking Epstein is such a waste of time.. its just wasting time when we should be stopping a genocide.. why waste your time on Mr Millar's article?
You have an interesting narrative going there.
This is silliness and mostly conjecture. Chomsky didn't use “settler colonialism” language to describe Israel. So what? Calling Chomsky a Zionist and presuming that his thinking about Israel solidified while he was a teenager during WWII and remained constant throughout his life is an assertion without a shred of evidence. By the same logic, can we say that Max Blumenthal is deep down inside a center-right Zionist because his father, Sidney Blumenthal, was a chief advisor to Bill and Hilary Clinton and is still ensconced in Democratic Party politics? Was Chomsky wrong to be pessimistic about the possibility of a single secular state in Palestine, given that Israel had and still has the unwavering financial, military, and diplomatic support of the US and Europe? Chomsky showed up to protests for most of his adult life and felt a responsibility to use his unmatched analytical skills to write and talk about politics and the media.
Unwavering support from USZA, UK and EU, indeed, when zionists have infiltrated every government, media, financial and educational institution in all western countries, it's a kind of paper in wet water unwavering, when you look to the protests. The social media posts and the disgust that the public has demonstrated towards the zionist project Israel. Chomsky, has been vague on zionism and Israel, he has not indicated a clear position. Considering that everyone in the Epstein files is tarred with the same paedophile/sexual assault brush. He might want to comment, - or not. It is my belief that honest, upstanding, moral, people are that way because they don't make connections with people who are immoral. Like attracts like. I am disappointed in Chomsky.
In 2015, at age 85, Noam Chomsky did something terrible! No doubt about it. I’m also disappointed in Chomsky. Is his wife lying? Did Chomsky work for Mossad? Or the CIA? Did Chomsky beguile Hugo Chávez in 2006? No evidence for those charges so far. I agree that academics are terrified of Israel, its precious antisemitism, and wealthy Israeli-American donors.
Have you read this? https://open.substack.com/pub/mate/p/noam-chomskys-wife-responds-to-epstein?r=549m2&utm_medium=ios&shareImageVariant=overlay
The problem with the yarn she is trying to spin is that outside of how implausible it all is, is 1) it's conveniently only being addressed now that there is no escape from the knowledge that is presented to the public. Choamsky/his wife could've made this statement during the first wave of releases and clarified their relationship then. Instead I assume they hoped these emails which are damning towards them would not be released and are now playing damage control after the cover up has failed, so excuse me if I'm not exactly trusting 2) this doesn't address Noam Chomsky's demonstrable friendship with Steve Bannon.
While everyone is rightfully more concerned about Noam's friendship with a convicted pedophile, its his friendship with Steve Bannon that highlights his duplicity, here is someone Chomsky called an "ultranationalist, reactionary", basically one step removed from a fascist if there is a distinction. Yet here he is with Bannon arm and arm having a laugh.
One thing I'll point out people often use the pictures and videos of the ruling class in parties dancing and having fun together regardless of supposed political affiliation as proof that at the end of the day, they are one unified class and their confrontations are just theatre. Why should Noam Chomsky be treated/viewed differently?
Now of course someone could point to his publicly known friendship with former CIA director John Deutch in fact on Deutch Chomsky was noted as saying "He has more honesty and integrity than anyone I’ve ever met in academic life, or any other life. … If somebody’s got to be running the CIA, I’m glad it’s him."
https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/library/national/121095real-cia.html
Though again, there's things a lot of politically active people both here and elsewhere would say about someone who has such a close relationship with any CIA agent let alone the Director of the organisation, of course anyone whose done research on Chomsky knows of his origins doing research funded by the Pentagon.
There are criticisms of Chomsky's work on its merit alone that don't touch at any of these factors that are highly damning of his ideas and view them as a mental dead end built to excuse political inaction and tacitly support the same empire it purports to condemn by levelling even harsher criticism on ts opponents/targets even if that criticism is ostensibly against US intervention.
Yet one putting the two together one can walk away with a more sinister reading of Chomsky's motivations. However if one doesn't believe he was any kind of intentional agent his own words can still be used to damn him, as he once said to a news host who interviewed him "“I’m not saying you’re self-censoring. I’m sure you believe everything you’re saying. But what I’m saying is, if you believed something different, you wouldn’t be sitting where you’re sitting."
Even if we believe that Noam was a good faith actor, his own work and statements should've clued him in that by his own standards he was no threat to the system he was ostensibly attacking as he made TV appearance after TV appearance and constant Op Eds on mainstream publications
Boy do you have egg on your face now
Silliness indeed. And for reasons such as you noted above and more, it can be argued that the author is an ass****
The Best of Chomsky, Academic Gatekeeper:
"Even if it were true [that 9/11 was an inside job], which is extremely unlikely, who cares? I mean, it doesn’t have any significance."
Mandating Covid Vaccines: ”People who refuse to accept vaccines, I think the right response for them is not to force them to, but rather to insist that they be isolated.”
2012: “I think there’s a lot of excessive concern in activist groups about state repression. So take, say, there’s paranoia about concentration camps. You know, they’re gonna lock us up, NDAA says they can detain us indefinitely. Concentration camps have been there since the 50s.”
Chomsky and Epstein: Chomsky has maintained that Epstein’s ties to intelligence agencies should be considered a "conspiracy theory".
2018: Noam Chomsky and Bard College president had financial dealings with Jeffrey Epstein
The MIT linguist says the late sex offender helped on a ‘technical matter’ related to his and his late wife’s finances
Jeffrey Epstein helped move $270,000 for renowned linguist Noam Chomsky and also paid $150,000 to Bard College president Leon Botstein
Chomsky met with Epstein several times between 2015 and 2016, allegedly to discuss neuroscience and AI.
Chomsky also met with Epstein and former Israeli Prime Minister, Ehud Barak, allegedly to discuss "Israel’s policies with regard to Palestine.
I'd suggest this is a somewhat problematic article not least because Chomsky is still alive but not in a position to answer these sorts of charges. The meeting with Epstein is intriguing butcould be for any reason. In the circumstances under which Chomsky is unable to respond, it arguably amounts to a slur and there are surely individuals who merit greater attention.
Well, in my experience moral people usually stay that way because they avoid immoral people. Considering, his influential sphere is warrants an examination of his comments, I see someone has already posted some not so academic views.
What response from a pedophiles close friend is there that could in any way shape or form justify his actions? Contrast Noam Chomsky's response to Epstein with Norman Finkelstein's
So you assert but my point is not about whether or not Chomsky supports Israel Zionism - it's about his non ability to respond.
That's precisely my point - Chomsky is NOT dead, but incapacitated and so in no position to respond
Find me an obituary - you can’t
No he isnt
I recall a short video or comment a year ago (approx.) in which Chomsky defended his brief contact with Epstein as merely asking advice on, or execution of, the transfer of a large sum of Chomsky's wife's money.
As Golem Melter replied here to me, "And now we know that [Chomsky's statement] was a lie."
And now we know that was a lie
In the linguistic community, he was go incarnate. When he visited UCLA linguistics, it was as if the messiah had come. In any event, I was in Phonetics, so his syntactic analysis didn't really matter to me as I was intrigued by how sounds carried the core elements of meaning and how subtle of a change in sound could create a perceivable difference for listener. And it turns out.. there are things people do in certain languages that non native speakers are blown away by..
In any event.. sorry about getting lost in world of phonetics.. but as for Chomsky and his ties with Epstein and Zionism.. I guess that is pretty natural for most Jews of his generation, regardless of how 'progressive' and cutting they are when it comes to describing the US empire and its ways.
Like Leonard Cohen, one of my favorite troubadours, deep down, a hard core zionist. Very tribal. I think sadly most Jews are unable to get out of the mindset and brainwashing of being 'special, chosen, different'.. I mean after some 5000 years of this basic belief being passed down, generation after generation, it is not like Chosmky's linguist critical analysis would somehow cut him free of the cult like brainwashing that is part of the DNA.
Gen Z is breaking from this at the moment, but let's see how long that trend lasts. As people age, they go back to dogmas and beliefs from childhood.. like emotional/mental soul food. It just feels home.
Let's not think this is just a Jewish thing folks. I had Chinese friends that would serve us meals on plates reserved for non Chinese when we went to their house for dinner (kind of like a dog dish), Japanese to this very day have areas of the country that are for Japanese only. And so on and so forth..
It's just the way humans roll. We are after all, a tribal/clan species, no matter how urban or intellectual or critical of official narrative.
Those are my two bits anyway..
The book Chomsky couldn't write.....
"JUDAISM ...THE PERFECT CRIME"
Tracing Noam Chomskys' Zioist past, leads you to one place....Judaism.
The man is very very old and incapable of representing himself against sniping, envious cowards. Those of us who can know what he gave the world and can take solace that his work stands all tests. It's in the record, don't take my word for it.
He's very old and he likes girls very young, his work was always inane shit meant to lead the gullible down a dead end but now his not mere connections but deep friendship with the most powerful and the most vile people on this earth have been exposed, his legacy is now in the sewer with other excrement
Down a dead end? He supplied a great deal the gist grinding in this sorry ass media regurgitation mill. There's a genocide going on and this is the collective intellectual response? Give me a break.
Pointing a finger leave four pointing backatcha. This is the dead end, substack and myopic boobs like who I'm talkin to!
I'm sorry pointing out how useless Noam "Epstein's close friend" Chomsky is/was hurt your feelings
Actually, I'm glad you did and so doing, provided an example of his critics stupidity
You confused his critics intellect with your own I see
David Miller, sort your discussion thread out and stop trolls
I have long ago lost any respect for Chomsky, gatekeeper.
These are his old views. He has made that very clear.
Poor old Chomsky. Set up by a zionist tribunal, jury selected by a jewish judge.
I don't know this and I don't know him. But at his particular age he is a child of the Holocaust. And I would think that is a background that should not be neglected when analysing his thinking.
I am glad there are very few JEWS that share my love for Palestinians ….the world is ruled by Jews who believe the only valid race on earth is the Jewish race
The denouement of this shtick by these actors is, a subliminal and essential maintenance of Judaism.